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Comment from: Jack [Visitor]
Ho ho ho he's magic you know. You are not being fair.
10/02/09 @ 13:32
Comment from: T. Henriksen [Visitor]
Great article! I agree 100%
10/02/09 @ 13:44
Comment from: Phil [Visitor]
Interesting opinion.

I don't agree. We needed to get functional and organised, then use the flair players we have.

Clean sheets are the first requirement. Look at them over the road. Hughes has addressed this and its working.

Stevie Ireland has been the outstanding player of the season. He is class. His anticipation is first class, he has vision, can pass and and score. You must be watching another player. Ah that's it you got mixed up with that waster Robinho....

10/02/09 @ 13:57
Comment from: Peter Clayton [Visitor]
To succeed in the premiership it is not sufficient to be a "flair player".He should be talented and be able to run up and down for 90 mins (Without wheezing)The best players have a work ethic and determination which help when things aren't happening for them.Last season Ireland was an obviously talented footballer without the necessary fitness and mental toughness to be a top player.Most fans and critics now see him as the main focal point of the team. Elano can be good but he disappears when games get tough.I do believe that Jo is the best centre forward on City's books and Everton will be good for him,although calling him a success after one game is a bit silly.
Sven had some good results last season (Mainly 1-0 seria A stuff)The football this year has been mostly superior.Hughes has now realised that he needs to grind out some victories just as Sven did the first half of last season.
I don't know if Hughes will turn us into a top 4 side but he should be given a couple of seasons and I don't think he will be far off.
10/02/09 @ 14:24
Comment from: M Ward [Visitor]
I personally thought we had collapsed at the end of the Keegan and Sven eras and there was no real foundation there.
I have a season card and to be honest have enjoyed more of the games this season than last. Do agree though that from now until the end of the season will tell us a lot but we seem to be in reasonable shape
10/02/09 @ 14:42
Comment from: Dan [Visitor]
That was absolute rubbish,we probably have more flair player than the majority of the prem league.The attack on Ireland..its biz at best,surely this cant be written by a blue ???
10/02/09 @ 15:06
Comment from: Jim [Visitor]
I agree, sort of.

It'll build a good base for future seasons, and over time Hughes will learn to adopt more creative approaches to his footballers, and let them work their magic, it would be suicide to do it this season, we beat one team 3-0 then lose the next match and thats because he was using the idea that attack is the best form of defence.

Give me 1-0 wins any day if it moves us up the table.
10/02/09 @ 15:15
Comment from: 1.618034 [Visitor]
Rubbish!

The only thing that's "inflexible" is your red-tinted opinion of Hughes...

Ireland... You're kidding right?

SWP... Does he exist in your reality?

There's nothing wrong with demanding hard work on and off the pitch. At City he has the opportunity to have better players who when they work as hard as lesser players can also be creative!

See your friend sir bacon chops' team for an example of that!

CTID
10/02/09 @ 15:21
Comment from: zin zimmer [Visitor]
I've scanned your site on a few occasions, generally skimming the content, and to be fair this is the only time you've managed to grab my full attention.....all for the wrong reasons. Let me guess... failed journo? I don't think i've read a more contrite piece since mr harrisson had the audacity to print his infamous drivel in the Telegraph a couple of weeks ago, your not one in the same? Let me explain.... Sensationalizing a story to be controversial is the lowest form of reporting. Amplifying stories which have been attached to panic amongst supporters in general is a Sun cliche, ragtop reporting at its best skippy. Stephen Ireland? how i laughed at that..... Elano? how often have you been in the last 18 months? to suggest he's a player sacrificed due to circumstance is just retarded, he has been awful since nov 2007, sulky and unwilling to embrace methods which would undoubtedly improve him, though sources are suggesting for the first time that he is starting to embrace the hughes culture, and improving mentally to the constraints of the prem. If indeed you are a blue, be amazed if you weren't, try being objective instead of jumping on the proverbial bandwagon, time is the key here, ushering a manager who is starting to implement his own modal out is a Chelsea scenario waiting to happen, the quick fix is the last thing we want, allowing the club to grow internally will benefit our longevity, otherwise we become a continental rip off who sack willy nilly. One love
10/02/09 @ 15:49
Comment from: clevblue [Member] Email
Thanks,Zin Zimmer!
I am the editor of the blog, and the members of mancityblues.com have a wide range of opinion that they want to be expressed through this site. The blog doesn't always agree with member's opinions, but we believe it necessary to widen the debate about the club we all love, and we never edit the responses articles receive for that same reason. I'm sure "news of the blues" wants reply to all responses himself, and will.
Cheers
Clevblue
10/02/09 @ 16:20
Comment from: Wigan Blue [Visitor]
Spot on in most respects. He's ruined a team that was set to take the premiership by storm. His refusal to address the team's only serious shortcoming during the close season - the lack of a left back, left the whole defence unbalanced and struggling. That was the reason for the early inconsistency, and his sad attempts to paper over his own shortcoming have demoralised the whole team.

I would take issue over Stevie Ireland. His form has admittedly dropped off in recent weeks as the demoralisation surrounding him has ground him down too, but basically his form early in the season was a revelation.

We should have been challenging for the top four now. By MH's own admission that is now going to take years. But the owners are the ones who will decide how long we have to put up with the type of dross we saw at home against Middlesbrough. They have to watch it too...
10/02/09 @ 18:57
Comment from: clevblue [Member] Email
The owners will decide, and their judgement shall be swift, and their retribution terrible.

If they decide he goes his feet won't touch
10/02/09 @ 19:08
Comment from: Cooks68 [Visitor]
Total and utter cobblers from start to finish.

I would argue the points, but with such a blinkered opinion, what's the use.

Just to say Elano has been crap for the last twelev months. A serial sulker who wont work for the team. Sven was warned about his attitude by the Russians and he did manage to get the best out of him for four months, but once he had to play out poition, no real effort.

As for Ireland, you could not be more wrong if you were the King of Wrongland.
Stevie Ireland is a work in progress and thats just what he's doin, progressing at a very nice pace. Not the finished article yet, but getting there. City's best and most consistant player this season with Kompany and Zab.
10/02/09 @ 20:19
Comment from: Wigan Blue [Visitor]
Cooks68

You will of course have been watching the Brazil v Italy match tonight. Your point again?

Of course - you would have been watching the other match, as Mark Hughes would have been. Says it all...
10/02/09 @ 22:29
Comment from: Peter Clayton [Visitor]
Wigan Blue

Of course Elano and Rob impressed it was a friendly.No contact,no pressure
says it all!!!
11/02/09 @ 08:56
Comment from: poster [Visitor]
a frendly against a full strength italian side, who are world champions, no contact,...you didnt watch the game.

11/02/09 @ 18:07
Comment from: NewsOftheBlues [Visitor]
I understand people don't like the Ireland comments, but i beleive your blinkered. He is vastly over rated. Becuase he is from our academy like SWP we have a heightened opinion .

His passing is generally poor, he doesnt have the vision or the ability of the brazillians. He is creative, but he lacks the intelligance to take that to the next level.

At least 1/3rd of his passing goes adrift, he holds on to the ball too much because he can't pick out a pass when he puts his head down. And he isn't spacially aware, often off side whinging that he doesnt get the ball.

Elano showed last night why he is simply another level. Thats why th elikes of Mourinho rate him.

Sven was warned about him being a whinger, said the guy as shaktah, who have had numerous foreigners that have failed there because of the difficulty of culture, weather and style of football. Castillo for instance. Sven still picked elano, even played him at right back. short memory city fans?

He also started the season extremly well and scored two goals at sunderland, the next game he was dropped. I'm sorry thats poor man managment!!! When Irelans was suspeneded, he was superb , came o n vs stoke and gave us width. Yet he has been dropped again. His performance for brazil was world class agaianst a full strenght world champion italian side who are strong and great defending force. Robinho played the best that he has for some time, Hughes isnt getting the best out of him anymore either.
11/02/09 @ 18:44
Comment from: nwsftebls [Visitor]
i would suggest zim zimmer that you back up your statements with facts, elano been bad since 2007, thats sensatalionist nonsense.

i have backed my argument up, hughes himslef has said he wanted to replicate what he did at blackburn.

I read somewhere that i had written blackburn were dull. i said they were well organised but overtly too pyhsical, disagree, then disagree with facts!
11/02/09 @ 18:49
Comment from: nwsofthbls [Visitor]
I would also like to point ou that many of you havnt got the point. Yes we have an abudance of flair players, but the way and manner that they have been managed isnt productive to suit their style.

We started brightly with a side still mainly consisting of the svennis era, funnily enough elano has featured in most of our big wins. We have seen huge decline in form from key players and begs the question why, not just one or two are not performing but most of the squad.

Sven built a side of absorbing the attack and pressing foward with exciting breaks with skill and ability, we dont break any more with the same urgancy despite having these players. Our tactic now that hughes has built his own side for vast amount of cash is to play 6 defensive players and let the attacker punt the ball foward to bellamy.

Both SWP and Ireland final ball leaves much to be desired, but they both have great abiltiy to change tempo and push foawrd, this needs to be utlised in a more productive manner than hughes is achieving, we were incredibly flat vs boro.

we play defensive football away from home and have done all season, look where that has got us. the manager is failing. 1 win away all season is abject at best. We have clever players like elano not being used, Hughs ignored him again int he latest conference, he clearly read this, he isnt going to limit his attackers, he ignored elano.

I'm a city fan, season card holder, i watch the players complete performance, not just havign 2 or 3 succsesful passes a game.
12/02/09 @ 01:06
Comment from: bob the blue [Visitor]
I'm with zin zimmer. He says it all really.
What a pile of narrow minded, ignorant, nonesense that article is.
Wake up and smell the coffee News of the blues. If you are a blue at all.
12/02/09 @ 10:07
Comment from: newsoftheblues [Visitor]
Im sorry but what do you actually agree with in zim zimmer comments. He hasnt given any factual information and has compared us to Chelsea. Because thats one example. Keeping a manager for the sake of patients and continuity is not a good enough reason if he isnt the right man.

Sources suggest elano is adgusting? well hughes still doesnt pick him and completley disregarded him in the last press conference.


Ignorant of what? I ve watched every game this season, Elano has been involved with all our big wins but gets dropped. It doesnt make sense. He has failed to get the best out of our strikers, defenders. Now he has spent vast amounts the football has got worse, that doesnt add up.

Bob the blue , zim zimmer and anyone else istead of just slagging the article off, answer with informed opinions and facts, as i have.
12/02/09 @ 15:11
Comment from: sky blue moon [Visitor]
There ar no facts in that article to respond to Newsoblues. And the opinions certainly dont apear to be 'informed.'
Wat you say about stevie ireland just sums up the validity of your article.
a right old Pile of nonesense. Where do people like you get off on such rubbish?
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