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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2009, 08:15:51 AM »
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I remember the underground market very well, some very cool clothes shops in the 70's..

C&A, Pauldens, anyone remember Barons?

We bought a puppy on Tibb st

Oh and the barrow boys..

Oh and the village barber and Athena.
Which,Barons,the only one I can remember was on Great Ancoats Street,near Volmax.

aye thats the one wiggle, sold all kinds of everything.

Does anyone remember The twisted wheel or The Magic Village?
dont forget the domino club or the nile in mosside and  the blue note, or for the more discerning the new luxer club in hume
any one remember al showman ?
And the Reno,was also in Moss side and by Victoria Station,the Top Cat club
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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2009, 10:35:01 AM »
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Clothes shops,Barnetts,Ivors boutique (later stolen from ivors)
Kurtis menswear and I think I can remeber one called John Michaels,which was in St Anne's square
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2009, 01:29:53 PM »
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My good friend MCFC-B-- has just been reminiscing,and remembers,when he went into Brentford Nylons in Manchester.
He thought, he was entering a sex shop, Oh happy days.
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2009, 01:59:28 PM »
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My good friend MCFC-B-- has just been reminiscing,and remembers,when he went into Brentford Nylons in Manchester.
He thought, he was entering a sex shop, Oh happy days.

who can forget the great nylon sheets from brentford nylons that had more static in them then a electric power station . the bedroom would light up with bolts of lightening coming from the sheets every time you turnerd over in your sleep  laughing7 .
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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2009, 07:09:26 PM »
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I used to go in Top of the Town on Deansgate, also Takis and the Twisted Wheel - before that the Pop Inn nr maine Rd. Brown's in Moston, Oh dear me how sad am I?
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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2009, 07:43:03 PM »
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I remember watching Woolworths burn down.

That was awful. A friend of mine had gone shopping and was AWOL for hours. In the days pre mobile phones, you just had to sit, wait and hope they turned up again (which she did, thankfully)  Also, my older cousin was the Fireman at the top of the ladder helping people escape through a window, who was pictured on most of the newspapers the following day.  He won some sort of award for bravery and had to go to London to receive it from the Queen. I've never seen my Auntie so proud (or well turned out )

UCP cafe did a mean steak pudding chips and gravy. Shame my mother had to spoil my treat by consuming pigs trotters whilst I was tucking into my pud. Yuk!

I don't remember Market Street pre Arndale.  In fact one of my earliest recollections of visiting the City centre was that it was full of cranes and hoardings, presumably whilst the Arndale was under construction. Does anyone remember when it was actually opened?

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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2009, 08:43:17 PM »
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UCP cafe did a mean steak pudding chips and gravy. Shame my mother had to spoil my treat by consuming pigs trotters whilst I was tucking into my pud. Yuk!

I don't remember Market Street pre Arndale.  In fact one of my earliest recollections of visiting the City centre was that it was full of cranes and hoardings, presumably whilst the Arndale was under construction. Does anyone remember when it was actually opened?


Jeez yes, steak and kidney pud in the UCP - how could I have forgotten that!

The original Arndale opened around '76 but they'd spent about 5 years building it. I must be able to remember Market St pre-Arndale seeing as I can remember trolley buses running in the city centre  but apart from Pauldens I can't recall which shops were on there, probably because I hated shopping as a kid.  laughing7



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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2009, 10:01:31 PM »
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i can remember them moving the old shambles pub to biuld the arndale

http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/buildings/squares/manchester-squares.html#Shambles
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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2009, 12:08:08 AM »
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what was that army surplus shop called ? ardwick side of Piccadilly station on London rd i think it began with a W
[/quote......only one i remember was Millets
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2009, 12:34:57 AM »
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UCP cafe did a mean steak pudding chips and gravy. Shame my mother had to spoil my treat by consuming pigs trotters whilst I was tucking into my pud. Yuk!

I don't remember Market Street pre Arndale.  In fact one of my earliest recollections of visiting the City centre was that it was full of cranes and hoardings, presumably whilst the Arndale was under construction. Does anyone remember when it was actually opened?


Jeez yes, steak and kidney pud in the UCP - how could I have forgotten that!

The original Arndale opened around '76 but they'd spent about 5 years building it. I must be able to remember Market St pre-Arndale seeing as I can remember trolley buses running in the city centre  but apart from Pauldens I can't recall which shops were on there, probably because I hated shopping as a kid.  laughing7





I actually did a lot of work on the Arndale in the 70's, we called it the largest toilet in England due to those horrible tiles it was shrouded in.  icon_puke_r

I preffered the City as it was pre arndale, it tore the soul out of the centre, it wouldve made more sense to build it on the Belle Vue site IMO and keep the traffic out of the city centre.
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« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2009, 09:49:51 PM »
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what was that army surplus shop called ? ardwick side of Piccadilly station on London rd i think it began with a W
[/quote......only one i remember was Millets
nar  it was,nt millets
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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2009, 09:04:12 AM »
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I knew Market St and the city centre in the late 40s and 1950s, long before Arndales. I never went to any clubs - relied on the university students' union for jazz and pop, which had a reciprocal arrangement with the university I was at. Tjere was a used record shop called Mazel Records sort of the Ardwick side of the main Road near London Rd. Station (Picadilly? Nah, it were London Road and Mayfield stations, together with Central, Exchange and Victoria, and Oxford Rd. for trains to Old Trafford cricket ground.) Affleck & Brown was posh, then the slowly developing Picadilly Gardens, before the big hotel went up, and Lewis's, of course, and a good selection of clothes shops, cafes, and general sorts of shops down to Cross Street. There was a large tract of grass opposite Cross St. and behing the Shambles, so if you stood there, at the end of Cross St., you could see the Cathedral rigt in front of you, and all the way to Victoria Station (where we used to buy Health & Efficiency from the bookstall, and Spic and Span). Down behind Exchange Station was the Salford bus station (green buses as opposed to the red and cream Crossleys and Leylands of M/CR Corporation.)
Kendal Milnes was fun, going under Deansgate from the old shop to the new one. Parking was free and plentiful in St. Anne's Square and on Deansgate, and there were several Kardomah cafes for excellent coffee and cakes. Boots Library on St. Anne's Square, opposite the Kardomah, which my Dad used. Arwich Green was a bomb-site when I arrived, but was soon turned into grass, all the way from where the Hippodrome was (where Hyde Rd. met Stockport Road) down to close to London Road station. So much more. But this must seem prehistoric so I'll belt up. I've spent hundreds of hours of my life in the Central Library and in the Library Theatre underneath. Having books brought to you, as in the British Museum library, was magic when you were swotting for A and S level GCEs. The Cathedral and Town Hall and all the buildings in town were coal black. Sand-blasting didn't start until much later. I remember the creation of the first "smoke free zone" and having to swap coal for anthracite.
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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2009, 09:34:47 AM »
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But this must seem prehistoric so I'll belt up.

Actually no!.  It's fascinating. I can remember red (LUT) buses.......and Selnec ones (I was filled with nostalgia when one appeared in Life on Mars), but not different coloured ones for Salford and Manchester. The buses from Walkden always used to stop under Greengate arches.  I always thought it was a strange place for a bus stop (not to mention dark and scary when you were small). 

Nimrod, you're right about the Arndale resembling a "toilet" with those dreadful tiles.  It's all looking much better now tho.  In fact that bit around the Triangle/Arndale/M&S is one of my favourite bits of Manchester now.  In an odd way the IRA probably did us a favour by blowing it up (tic)

I'm a fan of the wheel too (although I know some who loathe it).  I dragged the Dizzy one on there (once I'd got her out of the posh shops!) at a ridiculously early hour one Sunday morning, following a lack lustre game against Blackburn and too much to drink the night before.  Great cure for a hangover!  confused2
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« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2009, 12:35:28 AM »
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But this must seem prehistoric so I'll belt up.

Actually no!.  It's fascinating. I can remember red (LUT) buses.......and Selnec ones (I was filled with nostalgia when one appeared in Life on Mars), but not different coloured ones for Salford and Manchester. The buses from Walkden always used to stop under Greengate arches.  I always thought it was a strange place for a bus stop (not to mention dark and scary when you were small). 

Nimrod, you're right about the Arndale resembling a "toilet" with those dreadful tiles.  It's all looking much better now tho.  In fact that bit around the Triangle/Arndale/M&S is one of my favourite bits of Manchester now.  In an odd way the IRA probably did us a favour by blowing it up (tic)

I'm a fan of the wheel too (although I know some who loathe it).  I dragged the Dizzy one on there (once I'd got her out of the posh shops!) at a ridiculously early hour one Sunday morning, following a lack lustre game against Blackburn and too much to drink the night before.  Great cure for a hangover!  confused2

I'll second that re canada's recollections. More please.
And some lovely memories from you Cat. I'd forgotten about Selnec and I agree about the Arndale Mk 2 Triangle/M&S and the wheel.
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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2009, 01:42:32 AM »
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But this must seem prehistoric so I'll belt up.

Actually no!.  It's fascinating. I can remember red (LUT) buses.......and Selnec ones (I was filled with nostalgia when one appeared in Life on Mars), but not different coloured ones for Salford and Manchester. The buses from Walkden always used to stop under Greengate arches.  I always thought it was a strange place for a bus stop (not to mention dark and scary when you were small). 

Nimrod, you're right about the Arndale resembling a "toilet" with those dreadful tiles.  It's all looking much better now tho.  In fact that bit around the Triangle/Arndale/M&S is one of my favourite bits of Manchester now.  In an odd way the IRA probably did us a favour by blowing it up (tic)

I'm a fan of the wheel too (although I know some who loathe it).  I dragged the Dizzy one on there (once I'd got her out of the posh shops!) at a ridiculously early hour one Sunday morning, following a lack lustre game against Blackburn and too much to drink the night before.  Great cure for a hangover!  confused2

speaking of buses cat I must have spent days waiting for the Glossop No 6 bus opposite Woolworths, it trundled through Stalybridge en route to Glossop.  laughing7
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« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2011, 02:19:59 PM »
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I doubt anyone will remember Liston's Music Hall situated in an alleyway off Market Street. This was a pub of ill repute frequented by the real dregs of local society. Full of gay boys, prostitutes, transvestites, toothless old hags and tattooed old men. Its reputation was that every sailor in the world knew of Liston's. Well, a bunch of us 6th formers went there after our school speech day at the Free Trade Hall one evening - in school uniform too. Nobody batted an eyelid except one gay waiter who wondered where all us men had come from. The bar scene in Star Wars had nothing on this place. When they pulled it down to build the Arndale I've a feeling the regulars were probably still inside. Coincidentally I was recently reminiscing about this eye popping evening with an old schoolmate of mine.



Yep, I do. It was in Swans Court off Market Street. Only went once. I was not living in Manchester and met my dad in town before going to a a City match. It was a Saturday 3pm kick off and he took me to Listons Music Hall for a drink. A place with "characters" as my dad would say. Showing me "Old Manchester". Infamous and hidden from respectable sensibilities.

Great picture here of when it was still open and trading circa 1971. You can just see Market Street at the end. http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=74795
This was how it was derilict prior to the clearance for the Arndale http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=7622

You went through the doors straight up the stairs. It was just a long room, small corner bar on your left as you walked in, a row of tables and chairs down each side and a small raised platform as a stage at the end and a piano. It soon after opening time so only a handful of people inside but it was not them who made an impression on me. It was the  overpowering smell of Jeyes fluid that disinfected even the air you breathed. Totally overpowering, as though the whole place had been washed down with the stuff. I settled for bottle of pale ale and declined a glass. My dad had a pint. I declined a second drink and never went again.

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« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2011, 02:51:29 PM »
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what was that army surplus shop called ? ardwick side of Piccadilly station on London rd i think it began with a W
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nar  it was,nt millets

Mazels? They sold all sorts of radio and surplus stuff, then into records, music and second hand stuff. Big Mazel Radio signs outside shop, inside full of clutter. Knocked down as part of the development of UMIST.

There were also two army surplus stores on Tib Street which were a good cheap source for outdoor clothing and camping stuff before the specialist shops like Millets and Blacks. They also sold surplus electric equipment, all valve based stuff. Transistors were just coming into use.
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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2011, 03:06:33 PM »
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what was that army surplus shop called ? ardwick side of Piccadilly station on London rd i think it began with a W
[/quote......only one i remember was Millets
nar  it was,nt millets

Mazels? They sold all sorts of radio and surplus stuff, then into records, music and second hand stuff. Big Mazel Radio signs outside shop, inside full of clutter. Knocked down as part of the development of UMIST.

There were also two army surplus stores on Tib Street which were a good cheap source for outdoor clothing and camping stuff before the specialist shops like Millets and Blacks. They also sold surplus electric equipment, all valve based stuff. Transistors were just coming into use.



Yes the one on Tib St was the Army and Navy store. Dixies and Tilley lamps and musty clothing that you could never get the smell out of.
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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2011, 03:08:14 PM »
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what was that army surplus shop called ? ardwick side of Piccadilly station on London rd i think it began with a W
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nar  it was,nt millets

Mazels? They sold all sorts of radio and surplus stuff, then into records, music and second hand stuff. Big Mazel Radio signs outside shop, inside full of clutter. Knocked down as part of the development of UMIST.

There were also two army surplus stores on Tib Street which were a good cheap source for outdoor clothing and camping stuff before the specialist shops like Millets and Blacks. They also sold surplus electric equipment, all valve based stuff. Transistors were just coming into use.


Yes the one on Tib St was the Army and Navy store. Dixies and Tilley lamps and musty clothing that you could never get the smell out of.
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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2011, 03:10:29 PM »
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what was that army surplus shop called ? ardwick side of Piccadilly station on London rd i think it began with a W
[/quote......only one i remember was Millets
nar  it was,nt millets

Mazels? They sold all sorts of radio and surplus stuff, then into records, music and second hand stuff. Big Mazel Radio signs outside shop, inside full of clutter. Knocked down as part of the development of UMIST.

There were also two army surplus stores on Tib Street which were a good cheap source for outdoor clothing and camping stuff before the specialist shops like Millets and Blacks. They also sold surplus electric equipment, all valve based stuff. Transistors were just coming into use.


Yes the one on Tib St was the Army and Navy store. Dixies and Tilley lamps and musty clothing that you could never get the smell out of.

I don't know what's going on with these quote marks. We got a puppy from Tib St that was ill when we got it, poor thing did nowt but yap yap and then it died. They were from puppy farms, a terrible practice that but we knew no better.
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« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2011, 08:35:35 AM »
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Too true about that musty smell. I also read that Tib Street was once a red light area. Only thing I ever saw was the puppies and kittens in the pet shop windows you mentioned.

There was a small weekend street market on Shudehill on the Arndale side where the pavement widened into a triangle. As well as stalls for second hand books and things, there was a trade in pigeons. I dont recall if they were fancy pigeons or racing pigeons or both. It seemed ad hoc bring and buy as there were baskets holding the birds scattered around with buyers and sellers. You could always see birds being examined and handled. The pigeons went in the 1960's and record stalls set up in the open.  I remember buying a Moody Blues and Led Zep LP there.

A common sight at dusk around Piccadilly was flocking starlings. Huge numbers of birds that seemed to flourish. I'd watch whilst waiting for a bus home. Not so many pigeons around then. Probably trapped in baskets for sale on Shudehill market.
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